medicinewater

Medicine Water. Mi-huh-heu-i-mup
Cheyenne Ft. Marion POW.
[married Mochi - also Cheyenne POW]

Measure Woman Standing Bird (daug. of Medicine Water and Mochi, POWs), to Cleo Sipes to John Sipes, 1983, that-- When the families gathered at the Darlington Agency to greet the returning prisoners that the soldiers were in battle positions and guarding the returning POWs as well as the families that came to welcome home their loved ones. There was much celebrating and gathering of the people to see and visit the returning Cheyenne warriors/veterans. Pete Bird Chief to John Sipes in 1983 stated that Medicine Water had scars on his ankles that never went away. When Pete would sit and listen to Medicine Water tell stories of Ft. Marion when Pete was a young man Medicine Water would point to the scars on his ankles made by the chains and say, " This is what the government did to us to get control of our
land, buffalo, ways of life as people and took away our freedom as Cheyennes."

Elva Medicine Water (rg 1329). Father listed as Medicine Water, chief. No data on mother given. Arrived CIIS 9/21/1886, dept 7/8/1889. she was 17 when she arrived.

{she came in with a big party 30+ from Cheyenne and Arap; many of whom were sent home sick, 2 died.many seem to have well known parents; note that Luke and Elva arrived in the same party.

Genevieve Bell NARA collection.

Cheyenne & Arapahoe, I.T., August 6th (no year shown only the number 7)*

To Capt. R.H. Pratt, Supt. Carlisle Trainning School, Carlisle, Pa., from G.D.Williams.
Sir:
In closed please find check for thirty five dollars sent by Medicine Water to his daughter Eva (Elva) Medicine Water. I am informed by Medicine Water that Eva has written him that she could return home by his paying her traveling expenses, and that is the object for which the money is enclosed. If in the exercise of your descretion you see proper to keep her in school turn over to her such an amount of enclosed $35 as she may need, if any, and the balance please return to this office.

Very Respectfully, G.D.Williams

Note: Since writing the above Medicine Water has requested me to ask you to place the entire $35 to Evas credit if she should not be allowed to come home. G.D.Williams

*[Note from Barb: most likely would be 1887 since we know Elva was enrolled 1886-1889.

R.H. Pratt, St. Augustine, Sept. 19, 1876, to Agent Miles.----Dr. Friend, I send here in money as follows-Long Back to his wife, $4.00; From Medicine Water to his mother, $1.00, Sister, $1.00, and three children $1.00 each- $5.00; From White man to his baby, $1.00; From Bear Shield to Jno F. Williams to be expended for Bear Shields wife, $2.00; From Making Medicine to his mother, $2.00. Total $14.00. I send by Str. to N. Y. and fast freight to Wichita a box of things to you for the families of the prisoners. A few send nothing. Have taken steps to hurry it through and anticipate it will get to Wichita in about three weeks. The enormous Ex. charges forbid it going that way. I leave the charges to be paid at your end. If you do not find a way to stand the whole or even a half notify me and I will make it some way and assist. Weight about 175#. Minimic says to tell his wife they are all out of kinnekenic.

John Sipes' g-g grandfather.

Man-on-Cloud, Chey. Chief, of Watonga was brought to the Clinton Ind. Hosp. He had a severe cold. (Bro. to Medicine Water - Ft. Marion POW), Man-on-Cloud visited Carlisle students in 1881.
Geary Times Journal, Feb. 18, 1937.

Chief Killer's connection to Medicine Water - his step-father and Henry Roman Nose married into family by way of his wife, Standing, being first cousin to Sipes' gt. grandmother Measure Woman or Tah-neh who is the daug. of Medicine Water. ....
................Medicine Water led the cavalry on a never ending chase until he finally surrendered in March of 1875 at Darlington and Capt. Niell met the Cheyenne two miles out of Darlington and immediately put Medicine Water and Mochi in chains and shackles.
.................Karen Peterson did an excellent job of reseach of the extended families and the military soldier societies of the Bowstring and Dog Soldiers that Medicine Water and the other chiefs led before the surrender and the guilty as well as those with no "so called" charges sent off to be incarcerated at Ft. Marion.

Sipes email (c) Nov 19, 2002.

Medicine Water, male, 59 yrs. old, born in Wyoming in 1835, mother born in Wyoming, father born in Wyoming.(gt. gt. grandfather of John Sipes).

1900 U.S Census of Southern Cheyennes, J.J. Chou, Ethnology Project, Dept. of Anthropology, Univ. of Oklahoma.

Big Shield/Ma-ka-ah-na, #1879, Female, over 60 years old, died.
Marriages:
New Coming/Swift Hawk/Mo-nay-ma-os-is, killed about 57 years ago, Cheyenne;
Sharp White Man, divorced;
Medicine Water #1878.

Children:
Old Coffee Woman, 57 yrs., father Mo-nay-ma-os-is, died 3-26-1911;
Bald Eagle, 56 yrs., father Mo-nay-ma-os-is, living;
Short Man, father Medicine Water, dead;
Measure Woman/Tah-nah, 45 yrs., father Medicine Water, living;
Sprinkle Horse Woman, #1882, 38 yrs., father Medicine Water, living;
Elva Medicine Water, #1881, 21 yrs., father Medicine Water, died 6-29-1893.

Children of Deceased Children:
Maude Chief Killer, 45 yrs., Old Coffee Woman, living;
Naomi Chief Killer, 33 yrs., Old Coffee Woman, living;
Walter Chief Killer, Old Coffee Woman.

Parents:
Old Little Robe, died before allotments, Cheyenne. (mothers name not shown).

Brothers and Sisters:
Crooked Woman. 1902 Family Register #303, shows Old Coffee Womans father as Touching Cloud.
(This info. put together in 1908)

Old Yellow Hair #780, 80 yrs. old, died 1891
   Marriages:
     Medicine Water No. 1, died before allots., Cheyenne, married by Indian custom;
     White Man, died before allots., Cheyenne, married by Indian custom;
     War Bonnet, killed in 1864 at Sand Creek Massacre, Cheyenne, married by Indian custom;
     Fat Bear, died 1869, Cheyenne, married by Indian custom.

   Children:
     New Medicine Man, father Medicine Water No. 1, died 1855;
     Earrings, father Medicine Water No. 1, killed with his brother, Alights on Cloud, in 1852 in fight with Pawnees;
     Medicine Water No. 2, 80 yrs.old, father Medicine Water No.1, living;
     Red Woman, died 1878;
     White Girl, 58 yrs. old, father White Man, living;
     Shawnee Woman/Margaret White Shield, father Medicine Water No. 1, died 4-10-1900;
     Wolf Going North, 8 yrs. old, died before allots.

   Children of Deceased Children:
      Bald Eagle, 59 yrs. old, parents New Medicine Man and Ma-ka-ah-na, living;
      Old Coffee Woman, 58 yrs. old, New Medicine Man and Ma-ka-ah-na, died 3-26-1911;
      Small Back (Snake), 49 yrs. old, Touching Cloud and Red Woman, living.

Parents:
Dust Storm, died before allots., Cheyenne, (mothers name not given).

   Medicine Water testified that Old Coffee Woman married Chief Killer and they had three children: Maud Chief Killer/Maud Horn, living; Lame Woman/Naomi Chief Killer, living; Little Hawk, a son, died before allots. while small.
   Earrings was killed in battle 1852 with his brother Alights on Cloud with (Wolf People) Pawnee, never married or had issue.
   Shawnee Woman/Margaret White Shield married White Shield and they had three children: Praire Woman (Red Bird), living; Ben White shield, living; Crawling/Walking hand, deceased, never married or had issue.
   Affidavit by White Shield that he had two children by Margaret White Shield: Felix White Shield/Charles Hawk; Praire Woman (Red Bird).

Note: Standing Bird family oral history states: Old Yellow Hair, Man on Cloud #2078, Medicine Waters brother-in-law, and sister came into Ft. Reno to surrender from the Staked Plains just prior to Medicine Water surrendering and the old Cheyenne women heard the soldiers saying they were
going to hang Medicine Water when they caught him. The family group escaped from the soldiers by night and traveled back to the Staked Plains some 200 miles out to warn Medicine Water and they continued to fight until they surrendered March 5, 1875.

Standing bird family oral history states that Cometsevah, Cheyenne, was not brother to Medicine Water.( Cleo Sipes, Woodrow Goose, Sherman Goose, Pete bird Chief Jr., Wilbur Standing Bird, Verna Standing Bird Yellow Cloud to John Sipes in 1967,1979,1985.) Measure Woman Standing Bird, from Man on Cloud #2078, Iron Shirt, Medicine Water to Measure Woman Standing Bird
to Cleo Sipes to John Sipes.

Cheyenne Beef Issue Bands (No Date) At Cheyenne and Arapahoe Agency.
Band No. 6, Buffalo Meat, 32 Persons; Band No. 20, Medicine Water, 36 Persons; Band No. 43, Left Hand, 37 Persons; Band No. 45, Little Medicine, 30 Persons; Band No. 51, Prairie Chief, Son of Grey Beard, 36 Persons; Band No. 53, Little Chief, 23 Persons; Band No. 23, Antelope, 30 Persons.
(Sipes Ft. Marion POW Files On Returned Prisoners)

Hand Written Will of Cheyenne Chief Iron Shirt, Cantonment, Okla., November 16, 1915.
( Chief Iron Shirt is brother of Bowstring War Chief Medicine Water; Chief Man on Cloud, who was Dog Soldier; Chief Alights on Cloud; Chief Man Riding on Cloud/ Touching Cloud, their nephew, is son of Alights on Cloud who was killed by the Pawnee Indians in 1852 in present- day Nebraska. Their father was Medicine Water No. 1 who was a Elk Horn Scraper or Crooked Lance Headsmen and died ca. 1850s. Another brother named Earrings was also killed with Alights on Cloud and one other brother was killed by the Crow Indians ca. 1820s.)
(1) I want all my debts and the debts of my former wife, Sioux Woman, paid.
(2) I want to leave to Marble, my sister-in- law, who has always taken good care of me, by cooking and washing for me and acting as nurse, two ponies.
(3) I give forty acres of the Sioux Woman allotment to my brother Man on Cloud, the forty acres containing the house, barn and improvements. The other 40 acres acres without improvements I give to my niece, Standing. My own allotment of eighty acres I give to my brother Man on Cloud. I do not give any of my own allotment to my niece because she has plenty of other lands besides her allotment. My brother has only his allotment.
(4) I give my two seated buggy to my grand niece, White Head.
(5) All the money I may have to my credit at the agency from the sale of 80 acres of my allotment to be divided equally between my brother, Man on Cloud and my niece Standing. And I want my brother Man on Cloud to give Touching Cloud, my nephew, some money when he draws any of the money from the share he is to get.
/S/ By Thumb Print of Chief Iron Shirt.(Iron Shirt died 4-16-1917 and buried in Watonga, Okla., Indian Cemetery.)
(Marble is wife of Man on Cloud and her name in Cheyenne is translated to mean Stone Road Woman and not Marble as the tribal census rolls of the Cheyenne states. Note from John Sipes.)

This farming and grazing lease of the S/W 1/4 of 17-19-14, Oklahoma, for 1 year from 8-21-18 to 12-31-18, consisting of 160 acres, near Canton, Okla., belonged to Co-hoe, Deceased. His heirs show to be:
Feathers, born 1844; White Shield, 1802; Happy Woman, 1862; White Eagle, 1856; Chunky Finger Nail, 1864; White Hawk, 1873; Sistini, 1854; William Two Moons, 1884; White Fawn, 1861.
William Two Moons is a Northern Cheyenne. The rest of the heirs are from the Red Moon band of Cheyennes (Oklahoma).Clifford Eagle Feathers, an Elk Horn Scraper Warrior Society headsman and ceremonial person from Montana, stated to John Sipes on November 29, 2004, that the family Two Moons and the family Two Moon are not related such as the late Chief Two Moon family is not related to William Two Moons family.
The White Shield family of the Red Moon band of Cheyennes is related to the Medicine Water extended family through the marriage of Margaret White Shield, full sister to Medicine Water. She married the old White Shield.

Man on Cloud #2078, 87 yrs.old, 7-20-1939

Marriages: Marble, #2079, died 4-25-1925

Children: none

Parents:
Medicine Water No. 1/ Man Came Out New Died before allots. and Killer Woman #2082.

Brothers and Sisters:
   Iron Shirt #2080, same parents, died 4-16-1917;
   Medicine Road #1878, sister, 52 yrs., same parents; Others died while small;
   Medicine Water No. 2, 1/2 brother, 83 yrs. old, parents Medicine Water No. 1 and Old Yellow Hair, died 6-18-1924;
   Red Woman, 1/2 sister, adult, parents Medicine Water No.1 and Old Yellow Hair, died before allots.;
   Margaret White Shield #2543, 1/2 sister, 48 yrs. old; Parents Medicine Water No.1 and Old Yellow Hair, died 4-10-1900.
   Medicine Water No. 1 also married: Old Yellow Woman #780- children:
           New Medicine Man/Showing Up Last, died before allots.;
           Earrings, die before allots.;
           Medicine Water No.2;
           Red Woman;
           Margaret Whiteshield.
       Also married Elk Woman.

     Issue of Deceased Brothers and Sisters:
         Standing (Roman Nose), female, parents Yellow Corn/Sun Bear and Medicine Road,living;
         Measure Woman (Standing Bird) #1890, female, 73 yrs. old, parents Medicine Water
No.2 and Big Shield, living;
         Sprinkle Horse Woman (Murphy), #1882, female, 63 yrs.old;
         Small Back (Snake) #767, female, 73 yrs.old, parents Touching Cloud and Red Woman, living;
         Prairie Woman (Red Bird) #570, female, 69 yrs. old, parents White Shield and Margaret White Shield, living;
         Charles Hawk/Felix Quiver #2425, parents White Shield and Margaret White Shield, living.

Note: Standing Bird family Oral History states: Man on Cloud #2078 was born in 1852 in the Dakotas the same year his brother, Alights on Cloud, (father of Man Riding on a Cloud #20), was killed by the (Wolf People) Pawnee on the South Loupe River in present day Nebraska. Earrings, brother to Alights on Cloud and Man on cloud #2078, was also killed in the same fight with
the Pawnee. Man Riding on a Cloud #20 is a nephew to Man on cloud #2078. Man on Cloud #2078 visited Carlisle Indian School with his friend Mad Wolf and several other Cheyennes while traveling to Washington D.C. Writers of Cheyenne history have always confused Man on cloud #2078 with his nephew Man Riding on a Cloud #20. Man on Cloud #2078 was married to Marble #2079 which should be translated as Stone Road Woman or Hard Road Woman. She is buried at the Cantonment Indian Cemetery and he is buried at the Watonga Indian Cemetery. Iron Shirt
is buried at Watonga Indian Cemetery. Sprinkle Horse Woman is buried at Watonga Indian Cemetery. Measure Woman Standing Bird is buried at the Clinton Indian Cemetery. Henry Standing Bird (son-in-law of Medicine Water No. 2) and Medicine Water No. 2 are buried on a lone hill northeast of Clinton, Okla. with several other old Cheyennes. Mochi, wife of Medicine water No. 2
died in 1880 and was laid to rest with all honors of a Cheyenne Indian Warrior Woman along the Washita (Lodge Pole River). Medicine Water No. 2 died on the Standing Bird allotment 5 miles northeast of Clinton, oklahoma and was buried with all honors of a Head War Chief of the Cheyenne Bowstring Warrior Society. Man on Cloud #2078, Iron Shirt #2080, Alights on Cloud, and
their nephew, Man riding on a Cloud #20, were all Cheyenne Chiefs. Standing Bird ,
son-in-law, of Medicine Water No.2 was a Chief and Road Priest for the Native American Church. Man on Cloud #2078 led a war party to Texas in the early 1860s and captured a small Mexican boy that was adopted into the tribe and received an allotment in 1892. Man on Cloud #2078 was Sgt. of the Indian Police at Darlington, a Sgt. in the Cheyenne Indian Scouts, spoke against the land allotments in 1890-92, went to Washington D.C. for the tribe as spokesman. He rode and fought
with his brothers Medicine Water and Iron Shirt. Iron shirt and the extended kinship were camped in the floor of Palo Duro Canyon and attacked by soldiers in the Red River War of 1874-75 just prior to the surrender of the last Cheyennes at darlington and Ft. Reno when Medicine Water and Mochi were put in chains and shackles to be shipped to Ft. Marion.

Births:
Snake and Small Back parents of Theodore Snake, son, born 11-30-1905, Cheyennes.(Small Back is granddaug. of Medicine Water, Ft. Marion POW.) Cheyennes

Births and Deaths of C&As (no name of vol. pages only shown)
Text Copyright (c) 2003 Ruby Bushyhead compiled by John Sipes.

Nat Murphy, 31, full blood, Chey., husb., married by Indian custom, father Little Shield,dead, and mother Standing Out, dead. Sprinkle Horse Woman,28, full Chey., wife, father Medicine Water (Ft. Marion POW) and mother Ma-ka-ah-na,dead. Rena Murphy, 5, Elva Murphy,1, parents are Nat Murphy and Sprinkle Horse Woman.

1902 C&A Family Register
Text Copyright (c) 2003 Ruby Bushyhead compiled by John Sipes.

Cheyenne And Arapaho Agency, Oklahoma.
Seger Agency
Industrial Survey Report, Agents Reports File
May 17, 1922
Goose ( Goose is brother-in-law to Standing Bird. Standing Bird son-in-law to Medicine Water and Mochi, POWs)
Allot. #2830, Age 60, full blood Cheyenne, number in family, wife.
Date of Survey: April 14, 1922.
Home on Bernitz Creek seven miles northwest of Clinton, Okla.
Goose is quite an old man and he and his wife make their home in a one room house located on the allotment, which is near the home of his son, Flynn. He is too old to work regularly but assists his son as much as his physical condition will permit. He has four horses. I visited his home on the afternoon of April 14, 1922, arriving at the place at 3:00 p.m. in company with the Agency Physician and the District Farmer. No sickness was found in the family.

Text Copyright (c) John L. Sipe 2004. Sipe/Berthrong Collections. Seger Agency Reports.

Arapaho Bee, May 29, 1918.
Rev. Ediger of the Indian Mission east of Clinton is busy selling Red Cross cards among us Indians when he came to one of our oldest Indians Medicine Water and he answered him "me got none money but mabe so pretty soon me catch im Red Cross. Me all time pay." (He had bought Liberty Bonds). As Mr. Ediger knew what old Medicine Water met. He left him. Medicine Water is well advanced in age but he knows what we are doing to win the war.

Arapaho Bee, Nov. 8, 1918.
Medicine Water said that the educated Indians ought to know better than sending their children to off schools. Medicine Water has a grand daughter, Mattie Standing Bird, who graduated last year and entered the high school in Clinton. He said, "In sending the educated Indians children to off schools and Government Indian schools supports the
Government Indian superintendents pockets. If you authorize me to get on a good lawyer as there are some lawyers here to find you a good educational institutional here at home that is if you want your children to have a good education." Old man sure is a tough one.

Living Woman (Amanda), 8 yrs. old, female, Chey., died 1/29/1913 of T.B.
Father was Standing Bird, Mother was Tah-nah/Measure Woman.
(Measure Woman was daug. of Medicine Water and Mochi, POWs.)
Frank Standing Bird, 19, male, Chey., died July 13, 1913 of T.B.
Parents were Standing Bird and Measure Woman.
Roy Standing Bird, 4 months, Chey., died 7/24/1916.
Parents were Standing Bird and Measure Woman.

Dept. of the Interior, U.S. Indian Service, Field Journal Voucher No. 51.
(To transfer the proceeds of the sale of the Old Woman allotment to the accounts of her heirs, LS 39777-26)
September 22, 1926, Seger Indian Agency, Colony, Oklahoma.
Heirs: Bear Woman (Dirty Nose), Jane Big Smoke, Willie Bear Shield, Alfred Bear Shield, Peairs Ground Nose, Lizzie Good Bear, Killing Woman, Little Woman Magpie, Looks Behind, Standing (Roman Nose) First cousin to Measure Woman Standing Bird, daughter of Medicine Water and Mochi POWs, and Standing is wife of Henry Roman Nose, POW, Two Hawks, Turkey Legs, Clara Winona Turkey Legs, Nancy Tall Bird, William Tall Bird, Vetcora (Vetcora was married to Bird Chief, brother of Standing Bird, son-in-law of Medicine Water), Wooly Dog.

There has been much confusion that Alfred Wilson is a brother to John Wilson and this Alfred Wilson family is related to Cleo Wilson Sipes and Everett Wilson families and extended kinships. This is not the case and there is no relationship whatsoever. Presented here are two letters to show from the Sipes Cheyenne extended kinship collection and the elders of the Wilson and Standing Bird families have stated this in oral family histories also. (See the Wilson and Medicine Water families on the Carlisle Indian School site).

Cheyenne and Arapaho Agency, Concho, Okla., May 24, 1928.
The Honorable Commissioner of Indian Affairs, Washington D.C.

Sir:
I have the honor to transmit herewith Deed Non-Competent Indian land, executed by Doll Woman and her husband, Alfred Wilson, coveying to Prudie Two Crows for the nominal consideration of "One dollar, love and affection", land in etc., etc. sections, state of Okla. Doll Woman is the aunt of Prudie Two Crows. Doll Woman states that she is willing to give the land to her niece ( Prudie Two Crows ) as her niece helped her financially and in other ways during the recent illness and death of her daughter, Wanada Wilson.
/S/ L.S. Bonnin, Superintendent.

Cheyenne and Arapaho Agency, Concho, Okla., December 17, 1930.
Commissioner of Indian Affairs, Washington D.C.

Sir:
Respectively transmitted herewith are the following described papers:
(A) Deed Noncompetent Indian Lands executed by Doll Woman and her husband, Alfred Wilson, coveying to Alfred White Crow for a consideration of $1600, part of Doll Womans allotment #605A, located in sections etc., etc. While this tract would provide him (Alfred White Crow) with a nice home without additional land, he would have no way in which he could earn a living, and therefore he and his uncle, Alfred Wilson , made this agreement with Doll Woman, Alfreds wife, that Alfred White Crow would purchase the land.
/S/ L.S. Bonnin, Superintendent

(Doll Woman, Alfred Wilson, Alfred White Crow or Prudie Two Crows families or extended kinships do not have any direct ties or relationship to the Cleo Wilson Sipes or Everett Wilson families.--- John Sipes, August 1, 2005)