Marital and Family Dysfunction
All About Eve Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 1950 Rating: NR-PG
Actors: Bette Davis, Ann Baxter, George Sanders
Topics: Personality Disorder, Marital Conflict
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Writing and more. A
classic movie. Pay close attention to Eve through the film. Also, what about Margo? Realistic at
end? If she were in treatment in the midst of her turmoil, how would you have treated her?
American Splendor Favorite
Genre: Drama/Comedy Year: 2003 Rating: R
Actors: Paul Giamatti, Harvey Pekar, Hope Davis
Topics: Depression, Family Dysfunction, Personality Disorder
Very interesting and unique film. Drags a bit at the end, though. Story of Harvey Pekar's life (he's
the "poster child" for the DSM-III according to his wife). Full of characters with quirks
(psychopathology?) who are still functioning in their lives. My favorite is Toby, the self-proclaimed
nerd (pronounced "nyerd") who is autistic. Having worked in a VA hospital, I can attest that the
climate in the file room is right on the mark!
Beautiful People
Genre: Drama/Comedy Year: 1999 Rating: R
Actors: Thomas Goodridge, Frank Pruti, Tony Peters
Topics: Drugs/Alcohol, "Bosnian syndrome," Family Dysfunction
A black comedy from Britain. Much like a lighter version of "Crash." The intertwining of lives and
various conflicts allow for discussion of biases and "us" versus "them" mentalities. Also includes
reference to "Bosnian syndrome."
Boost, The
Genre: Drama Year: 1988 Rating: R
Actors: James Woods, Sean Young, John Kapelos
Topics: Drugs/Alcohol, Family Dysfunction
Sean Young and James Woods get a "boost" from cocaine addiction, at what cost?
Canvas Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 2006 Rating: Pg-13
Actors: Joe Pantoliano
Topics: Psychosis, Family Dysfunction, Treatment
Seen through the eyes of a young boy, this film demonstrates the impact of schizophrenia on the
family. As such, I imagine it would be useful in working with families dealing with mental illness in
a loved one. Great music and photography.
Crumb Favorite
Genre: Documentary Year: 1994 Rating: R
Actors: Robert Crumb, Aline Kominsky, Charles Crumb
Topics: Sexual Disorder,, Family Dysfunction, Psychosis
WOW - a GOLDMINE of material for psychological analysis, and all true! Story of Robert Crumb,
famous cartoonist, and his oddities (rising to the level of diagnosis?) and dysfunctional family
history. Meeting his brothers and mother is so revealing. So much overlap among the brothers,
yet each with his own particular difficulties and psychopathologies, yet all artistic and clearly
brilliant. The brother Charles is the most endearing. The film hints at what may have been the root
of Charles' depression and suicide attempts. Do you see it? (Suggested by Michael Caruso,
University of Toledo, OH]
Don Juan DeMarco
Genre: Drama/Comedy Year: 1995 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Johnny Depp, Marlon Brando, Faye Dunaway
Topics: Delusional Disorder, Family Dysfunction
Johnny Depp (one of my favorites) believes that he is the great lover, Don Juan. He is treated by
therapist, Marlon Brando, who, as often happens in the movies, is really treated by his patient.
Cute flick.
Don't Bother to Knock Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 1952 Rating: NR-PG
Actors:
Topics: Depression, Psychosis, Personality Disorder
This is not a well-known film and was not a critics' favorite; however, I enjoyed it and believe that
in its short 76 minutes it gives plenty of material to digest. Marilyn Monroe plays a young girl
hired for the first time to babysit a child at a hotel, as recommended by her uncle, the elevator
operator. As the movie progresses, we learn that she was recently released from a mental
institution, "almost cured," almost being the operative word. I enjoyed the movie and Monroe's
performance. Consider suggestions of her childhood experiences, the concept of diathesis-stress
in the onset of psychopathology, and the possible personality disorder present.
Enduring Love Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 2004 Rating: R
Actors: Daniel Craig, Rhys Ifans, Samantha Morton
Topics: Psychosis, Anxiety, Family Dysfunction
This film, base on Ian McEwan's novel, has one of the most unique opening scenes. Through a
chance event, a strange man develops the delusional belief (erotomania) that he has a romantic
relationship with a male college professor, who, ironically, lectures on the sociobiology of love.
The professor suffers from acute post traumatic stress disorder, coupled with the anxiety of being
stalked. See my article on the topic for more information.
Fatal Attraction Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 1987 Rating: R
Actors: Michael Douglas, Glenn Close, Anne Archer
Topics: Personality Disorder, Family Dysfunction
A film which demonstrates why flings can be dangerous. Glenn Close as the spurned "flingee." Get
out the Borderline Personality Disorder criteria…
Four Hundred Blows, The (Les Quatre cents coups)
Genre: Drama Year: 1959 Rating: NR-PG-13
Actors: Jean-Pierre Leaud, Claire Maurier, Albert Remy
Topics: Conduct Disorder, Family Dysfunction
French movie at the cutting edge of the "new wave" of filmmaking in 1959, this movie depicts the
troubled life of a young boy, his time in juvenile hall, his dealings with the school psychologist, and
his dysfunctional family. Think about conditioning theory as it relates to when he is punished
(e.g., when returning the typewriter that he stole). [Submitted by Shanna Cross, Youngstown
State University, OH]
Harvey Favorite
Genre: Comedy Year: 1950 Rating: NR-PG
Actors: James Stewart, Josephine Hull, Peggy Dow
Topics: Psychosis, Drugs/Alcohol, Treatment
Academy Award winner for Best Supporting Actress. Classic comedy with Jimmy Stewart
hallucinating (?) a six-foot rabbit named Harvey. Consider the portrayal of psychiatry and the
mental asylum and the apparent ease with which one seemed to be able to commit a person. Also,
one might think Harvey was a result of too much alcohol, but do we actually see Jimmy Stewart
ever drink? Hmmm. My favorite lines are Elwood's quoting his mother: "In this world, Elwood, you
must be oh-so-smart or oh-so-pleasant," and his conclusion, "Well, for years I was smart; I
recommend pleasant." Is it a personality disorder to be too nice, too polite? Ah, if we all were so
afflicted! Parallels with Peter Sellers in "Being There" and Tom Hanks in "Forrest Gump?"
[Suggested by Joy Szuhay, Clarks Summit, PA]
He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not (A la folie…pas du tout) Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 2002 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Audrey Tautou, Samuel Le Bihan
Topics: Psychosis, Family Dysfunction
In French with English subtitles. A young art student is having an affair with a married cardiologist
whose wife is pregnant. She becomes suicidal when it is apparent that he is not going to leave
the wife. Seems like a classic tale, until the second half of the movie, when the film rewinds and
we see all the same events from the doctor's perspective.. This is the case of a delusional
disorder subtype. See my article on the topic for more information. Very entertaining.
Heavenly Creatures
Genre: Drama Year: 1994 Rating: R
Actors: Melanie Lynskey, Kate Winslet, Sara Peirse
Topics: Personality Disorder, Family Dysfunction, Treatment
According to the submitter: "Historically near-perfect account of two girls with a rich fantasy life.
When threatened with separation, they retaliate -- with murder. Can you say folie a deux? Kate
Winslet signals future superstardom." [Suggested by Ron Yamauchi]
I Am Sam
Genre: Drama Year: 2001 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Sean Penn, Michelle Pfeiffer, Dakota Fanning
Topics: Mental Retardation, Forensic, Family Dysfunction
Sean Penn portrays a man with mental retardation fighting for custody of his 7-year-old child.
Sam's group of friends are entertaining - two are truly developmentally disabled - his close
neighbor is agoraphobic. His lawyer is the stereotypical overworked yuppie professional woman,
estranged from her family. The film is a classic tearjerker. Despite significant research for the
film (watch the supplemental documentary), how realistic were the events? Did he take her to a
pediatrician? Did the pediatrician have any concerns about his care? Was that a realistic
portrayal of cross-examination of an expert witness? Could Sam really have afforded the
apartment at the end in Los Angeles, making somewhere around $8/hour? What really was in the
best interest of the child? Was the opposing attorney all that wrong? Many things to consider.
[Suggested by Kathleen Krach]
I Never Sang for my Father
Genre: Drama Year: 1970 Rating: PG
Actors: Melvyn Douglas, Gene Hackman, Dorothy Stickney
Topics: Bereavement, Adjustment Disorder, Family Dysfunction
Depressing film about a man's relationship with his elderly father and the stresses involved in
caring for him. Adjustment Disorder, with Mixed Emotional Features, Chronic? [Suggested by
Charleen Alderfer, College of New Jersey, NJ]
Life as a House
Genre: Drama Year: 2001 Rating: R
Actors: Kevin Kline, Kristin Scott Thomas, Hayden Christensen
Topics: Family Dysfunction, Terminal Illness, Drugs/Alcohol
Kevin Klein portrays a man diagnosed with terminal cancer and given 4 months to live. He
attempts to rebuild his relationship with his drug-using, life-hating teenage son, while they rebuild
a ramshackle house that was his lifelong goal. [Suggested by Carey Corbett, University of South
Florida]
Ma Vie En Rose
Genre: Drama Year: 1997 Rating: R
Actors: Michele Laroque,Jean-Philippe Ecoffey, Helene Vincent
Topics: Gender Identity Disorder, Family Dysfunction, Treatment
French movie (English subtitles) - Chronicles the emerging signs of gender identity conflict in a
young boy and his family's reaction, as well as the community. [Suggested by Sheila Fling,
Southwest Texas State University]
Man with the Golden Arm, The
Genre: Drama Year: 1955 Rating: NR-PG-13
Actors: Frank Sinatra, Eleanor Parker, Kim Novak
Topics: Drugs/Alcohol, Family Dysfunction, Personality Disorder
One of the first films to deal with drug addiction - in this case heroin. Frank Sinatra leaves rehab
clean, hoping to make a new start, but is dragged back under by returning to the same
environment. His wife, desperate not to lose his affection/attention, pretends she is paralyzed. A
movie ahead of its time. Compare to "Requiem for a Dream."
Marnie Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 1964 Rating: NR-PG
Actors: Tippi Hedron, Sean Connery, Diane Baker
Topics: Impulse Control Disorder, Sexual Disorder, PTSD
There is much to this movie. It exemplifies classic Hitchcock in its photography, use of color,
psychological storyline. The psychiatrist role was deleted, with Sean Connery taking over the
lines. Was this realistic? Was the ending realistic? Can you explain the theivery? What about a
classical conditioning paradigm for the fear of the color red and thunderstorms? How, today,
would Marnie be treated?
Mommie Dearest
Genre: Drama Year: 1981 Rating: R
Actors: Faye Dunaway, Diana Scarwid, Steve Forrest
Topics: Family Dysfunction, OCD, Personality Disorder
Based on the book by the adopted daughter of Joan Crawford, reflecting the movie star's abusive
behavior and mental illness. Diagnosis? OCD+? [Suggested by Molly McHugh, Saint Mary's
College, IN]
My Left Foot
Genre: Drama Year: 1989 Rating: R
Actors: Daniel Day-Lewis, Brenda Fricker, Alison Whelan
Topics: Family Dysfunction, Disability, Drugs/Alcohol
Academy Award winner for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actress. Great film about childhood
misdiagnosis of cerebral palsy as mental retardation and the difficulties adjusting to an adult life
with disabilities.
Ordinary People Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 1980 Rating: R
Actors: Mary Tyler Moore, Timothy Hutton, Donald Sutherland
Topics: Family Dysfunction, Depression, Treatment
Academy Award winner for Best Picture and Best Actor. Another MUST SEE for psychology
majors. Portrayal of how a family deals with trauma. One of the few positive portrayals of a
therapist (Judd Hirsch).
Paris, Texas
Genre: Drama Year: 1984 Rating: R
Actors: Harry Dean Stanton, Sam Berry, Berhard Wicki
Topics: Dissociative, Amnesia, Family Dysfunction
Unusual movie about a man who wanders out of the desert with amnesia for his past. He is
reunited with his brother, slowly his memory returns, he develops a relationship with his son, and
eventually he finds his wife. How do you interpret the ending?
Permanent Midnight
Genre: Drama Year: 1998 Rating: R
Actors: Ben Stiller, Maria Bello, Jay Paulson
Topics: Drugs/Alcohol, Treatment, Family Dysfunction
Autobiographical story of former Hollywood screenwriter, Jerry Stahl, and his struggles with drug
addiction. Hard to go wrong with Ben Stiller as the lead and, of course, the omnipresent Owen
Wilson has a small role.
Prime
Genre: Drama/Comedy Year: 2005 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Uma Thurmann, Meryl Streep, Bryan Greenberg
Topics: Treatment, Family Dysfunction
OK, I was "primed" to dislike this movie, based on the trailers. I was pleasantly surprised, but not
totally won over. The situation where a client becomes involved with a close family member is a
good one and should lead to discussions of dual relationships. What about the direction given by
the therapist's therapist?
Prince of Tides, The
Genre: Drama Year: 1991 Rating: R
Actors: Barbra Streisand, Nick Nolte, Blythe Danner
Topics: Treatment, Depression, Family Dysfunction
Barbra Streisand as therapist. Think it's OK to fall in love with the brother of your suicidal client?
Oy vey. Another example of unethical conduct by a mental health professional. I was angry
through most of the movie!
Quiet Room, The
Genre: Drama Year: 1996 Rating: PG
Actors: Celine O'Leary, Paul Blackwell, Chloe Ferguson
Topics: Family Dysfunction, Childhood Disorder
Australian film about a troubled 7-year-old girl who becomes mute in reaction to her divorcing
parents' fighting. The film is from inside the girl's mind, as we hear her thoughts and comments on
what is happening around her.
Rain Man Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 1988 Rating: R
Actors: Dustin Hoffman, Tom Cruise, Valeria Golino
Topics: Autism, Family Dysfunction
Academy Award winner for Best Picture and Best Actor. Excellent portrayal of autism in adulthood
and associated family stresses. Wonderful movie.
Regarding Henry
Genre: Drama Year: 1991 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Harrison Ford, Annette Benning, Michael Haley
Topics: Neuropsychology, Family Dysfunction, Amnesia
Harrison Ford portrays a survivor of a brain injury. Accurate? I wonder how real survivors feel
about this portrayal. Consider his personality pre and post the brain injury.
Requiem for a Dream
Genre: Drama Year: 2000 Rating: R
Actors: Ellen Burstyn, Jared Leto, Jennifer Connelly
Topics: Drugs/Alcohol, Psychosis, Family Dysfunction
Strong portrayals of drug addiction and its costs. Roger Ebert deems it a "travelogue of hell" - for
those who have not experienced the torment of drug addiction, here's a guided tour.
Revolution #9 Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 2001 Rating: NR - R
Actors: Michael Risley
Topics: Paranoia, Schizophrenia, Treatment
I LOVED this underseen independent film (only rated by 175 people on the Internet Movie
Database). It chronicles an acute episode of psychosis, its onset, effects on loved ones, and
treatment components. Includes very realistic portrayal of a commitment hearing and the
realities of managed care. The ending leaves room for discussion. Revolution #9 would make for
a great start of a series of schizophrenia films, depicting various stages of the disorder, followed
by "Pi" (untreated severe psychosis), "Clean, Shaven" (managed psychosis), and "Spider" chronic
disability. It's a great title, too. How many of you have played that song backward, looking for
the hidden messages (I know I did as a teen)? Feel more connected to Jackson in this movie?
Then again, Charles Manson claimed to receive messages from this song, too.
Ruling Class, The
Genre: Drama/Comedy Year: 1972/2 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Peter O'Toole
Topics: Psychosis, Treatment, Family Dysfunction
This British black comedy has a cult following and was rereleased to include previously removed
footage, which is unfortunate, as I found it too long. The first half or so I enjoyed, but found the
second half disturbing, as it unfortunately followed the oh-so-common path of schizophrenic as
dangerous. Still worth watching, as Peter O'Toole appears believing he is God and the treatment
facility at first seems so benevolent. But, alas, the treating psychiatrist loses his ethical scruples,
not to mention his sanity. The portrayal of schizophrenic dialogue is quite good, as well as
O'Toole's initial efforts to suppress his psychosis. Doesn't rise to the level of a "favorite," but
worth watching.
Sherrybaby
Genre: Drama Year: 2007 Rating: R
Actors: Maggie Gyllenhaal, Brad William Henke, Sam Bottoms
Topics: Drugs/Alcohol
Sherry is released from prison to a halfway house, after doing time for drugs/theft. Her young
daughter has been cared for by her brother and his wife. Sherry struggles with her re-entry into
society and into her child's life, expecting the "quick fix" she could get from drug use. Consider
family dynamics, personality issues.
Shine Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 1996 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Geoffrey Rush, Justin Braine, Sonja Todd
Topics: Schizophrenia, Schizoaffective, Family Dysfunction
Academy Award winner for Best Actor. Story of gifted Australian pianist, David Helfgott, son of
Holocaust survivors. You can visit the Helfgotts' personal website to learn more about this
interesting man and his wife. The father character also allows for diagnostic considerations.
Helfgott appears to have schizoaffective disorder-manic. The music is excellent in this film.
Sling Blade
Genre: Drama Year: 1996 Rating: R
Actors: Billy Bob Thornton, Dwight Yoakam, J. T. Walsh
Topics: Mental Retardation, Family Dysfunction, Trauma
A very interesting film, although somewhat predictable. What do you think the main character's
diagnoses would include? And how about when he left the state hospital - no such thing as
discharge planning? Billy Bob Thornton is excellent as the long-term psychiatric inpatient.
[Suggested by Bob Buss, Empire State College]
Spanking the Monkey Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 1994 Rating: R
Actors: Jeremy Davies, Elizabeth Newett, Benjamin Hendrickson
Topics: Family Dysfunction, Psychodynamic
What a positive surprise this film is and what a lousy title. If you are looking for a video to analyze
psychologically, this is one ripe with material. A young pre-med student, rather than going to a
prestigious summer internship in the attorney general's office, is tasked with tending to his
attractive mother who has broken her leg. His father is on the road selling motivational videos.
This forced intimacy (he helps her with the bedpan, dressing, showering) leads to Oedipal
situations. The film is a black comedy, with the viewer careening from very serious content to
humor in seconds. Definitely one to see for the psychologically-minded.
Squid and the Whale, The Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 2005 Rating: R
Actors: Tim Robbins, Laura Linney, Owen Kline
Topics: Family Dysfunction, Personality Disorder, Childhood Trauma
Wow. This film keeps you tense throughout. What a great family dynamics/dysfunction display. So
much to consider - father's narcissism, son's budding narcissistic tendencies (from father's
modeling, or his own personality disorder?), younger son's spiral into conduct disorder/depression,
lack of boundaries between parents and children…don't expect resolution at the end, though - just
like most times in real life.
Three Faces of Eve, The
Genre: Drama Year: 1957 Rating: NR-PG-13
Actors: Joanne Woodward, David Wayne, Lee J. Cobb
Topics: Dissociative, Treatment, Marital Conflict
Academy Award winner for Best Actress. Early story of psychiatric treatment to fuse multiple
personalities. One of the "training films" used by the Hillside Strangler in his attempt to fake
multiple personality disorder (see Frontline's "Mind of a Murderer-Part 2"). Compare with Sybil.
Consider the etiologies and why The Three Faces of Eve did not spark the boom of MPD diagnoses
that followed Sybil. Note the role of passivity (aka Eve White) as an adaptive strategy for coping
with her husband. Note also the timing of the onset of problems, associated with miscarriage.
Was the revelation at the end really the cure, in a Freudian sense, or was there progress all
Unstrung Heroes
Genre: Drama Year: 1995 Rating: PG
Actors: Andie MacDowell, John Turturro, Michael Richards
Topics: Family Dysfunction, Personality Disorder, OCD
Andie MacDowell portrays a dying woman with a young son, married to an eccentric inventor. The
two oddball uncles (one's paranoid, one's a hoarder) come through for the boy with some
remarkable insights and wisdom.
Vincent and Theo
Genre: Drama Year: 1990 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Tim Roth, Paul Rhys, Adrian Brine
Topics: Depression, Family Dysfunction
Biography of Vincent Van Gogh and his brother who supported him. Clearly Vincent experienced
depression, and some believe that the impetus to cut off his ear came from Meniere's Disease,
which can cause unbearable ringing in the ear. [Suggested by Celeste Wallin, NY]
Virgin Suicides, The
Genre: Drama Year: 1999 Rating: R
Actors: James Woods, Kathleen Turner, Krsten Dunst
Topics: Suicide, Family Dysfunction, Depression
What lead to the multiple suicides by sisters? Loss of innocence? Family dysfunction? Much room
for interpretation.
Weatherman, The Favorite
Genre: Drama/Comedy Year: 2005 Rating: R
Actors: Nicolas Cage, Michael Caine, Hope Davis
Topics: Dysthymia, Personality Disorder, Family Dysfunction
Another "man's search for meaning film." Serious, yet with plenty of comedy to keep you
entertained. Consider the weatherman's diagnosis - dysthymia? Depressive PD? Also, what's your
interpretation of the father (Michael Caine)? Some reviewers saw him as a negative character - I
disagree and found him to be as supportive as he could be, while recognizing his son's failings.
What About Bob Favorite
Genre: Comedy Year: 1991 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Richard Dreyfuss, Bill Murray, Julie Hagerty
Topics: Treatment, Personality Disorder, Family Dysfunction
Cute movie with Richard Dreyfuss as the competent (or burned out?) psychotherapist and Bill
Murray as the patient (who seems to have more insight...). Note the difference in perception of
Bob between the therapist and his family. Has its flaws, but is a fun film.
What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Genre: Drama/Comedy Year: 1993 Rating: PG-13
Actors: Johnny Depp, Leonardo diCaprio, Juliette Lewis
Topics: Family Dysfunction, Childhood Disorder, Depression
Slice of life film, with Johnny Depp as the young adult caring for his family - a depressed, morbidly
obese mother, a brother with a developmental disorder, and two sisters. Somehow, he manages
it all. Good movie.
When a Man Loves a Woman
Genre: Drama Year: 1994 Rating: R
Actors: Andy Garcia, Meg Ryan, Ellen Burstyn
Topics: Drugs/Alcohol, Family Dysfunction, Treatment
Story of alcoholic wife and mother, her treatment, and her relationship with her husband.
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 1966 Rating: NR-PG-13
Actors: Elizabeth Taylor, Richard Burton, George Segal
Topics: Family Dysfunction, Personality Disorder, Mood Disorder
Academy Award winner for Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress. Alcohol abuse, dysthymia,
narcissism, conversion disorder, marital dysfunction, and wonderfully clever dialogue make this a
must see. Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton portray the older married couple whose fights are
full of psychological barbs. [Suggested by Stephen Trichter]
Woodsman, The Favorite
Genre: Drama Year: 2004 Rating: R
Actors: Kevin Bacon
Topics: Sexual Disorder, Forensic, Family Dysfunction
This film is likely to generate significant discussion - there no doubt will be some who find it
offensive (the producer received a gift-wrapped rat for Christmas during film production), and
others who find it a thought-provoking piece about a taboo topic. The film is likely best
appreciated if watched without a "heads up" - Stop reading if you want to avoid spoilers …. Kevin
Bacon is terrific portraying the torment of a pedophile released after 12 years in prison. He
develops a relationship with a tough woman with her own history. He struggles with his continuing
impulses, wishing to be "normal," as he works with a therapist. From a diagnostic perspective,
consider that he is able to have "normal" sex with his girlfriend, the difference between him and
sexual sadists, such as the one described by the cop in the film, and the role that stress played in
his impulses, parallels with OCD? A thinker's film with many metaphors throughout and unsaid
story components (e.g., we have a sense of how pedophiles are treated in prison). I'm not sure if
this were intentional (perhaps yes, as the same producer made Monsters Ball) - the authority
figures in the film, with the exception of the therapist, were all African-American: boss, secretary,
cop. Is this a social commentary about the relative social positioning of pedophiles in a biased
society, even if white? Looking for a film to analyze for class? This one is loaded with material.